Nintendo Wii Fanboy

I think I just heard an entire collective of Nintendo fans weep. Just Awful. It looks like they just took a gamecube version and did a little spit and polish. Not even a wax. Just EA's dirty spit.

That's right.

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Rofl, I've been browsing between this and pspfanboy. I thought this was a screenshot of the psp version. I was all, wow this doesnt actually look half bad.

Though, in all fairness, its possible it looks crappy because of the person using the camera.

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Before I get mauled to death though; I do appreciate them taking the time to tweak the controls, but when EA is concerned; is that a legitimate reason, or just an excuse to get away with recycling old graphic content?

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I guess it doesn't look too bad - but still, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that EA's just taken a cube build and tweaked it up. No wonder EA can churn out so many Wii titles.

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"The presenters noted that the graphics weren't anywhere near what they wanted them to be, concentrating fully on the game's controls at the present time, but we think things aren't looking too shabby as they are." Guys please read before you post.

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KVN,

Thank you cause it seem the rest can't read or just lack the brain power to make sense of what was said. The demo behind close doors was just to showcase the game controls. Working on the graphics will come next.

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Is there any need for petty insults?

I read what was said. My comments still stand. It's becoming an excuse now to say "Oh, we'll work on the graphics later, we're concentrating on the controls" But so far Ubisoft are the only ones to keep to that promise with Red Steel. These are really nothing more than gamecube game engines on Wii hardware, I don't think anyone can really deny that - my problem isn't the graphics (I actually value gameplay), but at the same time I fail to see why I should be impressed that EA arn't building these games from the ground up, to take advantage of the hardware.

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Ze JOKES! Zay hurt my nintendo fanboy pride! EEEOUCH! When Ze poke fun at ze wii I must cry! But every xbox360/ps3 title zat graces ze convention floor must be ze object of moi critizisim for ze bad graphics!!

Seriously guys, When I first saw it, I thought it was a psp game for said reason. I gave it an "In all fairness" response as well. But oh no! I said something other than IT LOOKS AWESOME GO WII! and you all just jump up to defend "your" system blindly, like fanboys often do.

It's early in its development (hopefully) We all know they will update the graphics (hopefully). Learn2Humor

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This is going to be my last post because i don't want this to be a pissing match.Lynx i did'nt mean to insult you if i did i'm sorry.Aex when i read your first post i assumed that you did not read the article and just looked at the pics.Because what you said sounded more like a fanboy that what i said.I never said the graphics looked great or anything i know they don't.I just thought you guys posted blindly.

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Geez some people...

If Lynx and Aex don't like how the game looks, DON'T GET THE GAME! If you hate EA, DON'T GET THE GAME!

Meanwhile I'll be enjoying an amazing racer. Cuz IMO, any "Nintendo fanboy" that cares *that much* about graphics, isn't fit to be called a Nintendo fanboy (seeing as how you *are* on this particular site).

If you love Nintendo, you love the gameplay, not the graphics. If you like the graphics more, you might want to concider moving to PS3 fanboy. Now of course the graphics have to be up-to-date, and they ARE from the way this looks.

Besides, don't expect all the launch titles to be amazingly detailed. Last I checked, no system ever had a launch title that could be concidered a "beautiful" game. Launch titles are experiments, which is why later games for a console look better.



So if you don't like the way an IN DEVELOPMENT game looks, don't get it. But your shallow nature (and/or prejuduce against EA) just cost you a great gaming experience.

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Marc - Refer to previous post and Learn2Humor

And side note, I don't love nintendo, just as I don't love sony, and I don't love microsoft. Nintendo is a great game designer and they earn/deserve my respect for that. But, they are not a great hardware designer. I wish nintendo would stop making hardware (well, I do like their handheld hardware, lets just say stop making home consoles) and become a 3rd party developer, but that will never happen. All in all, you need to realize Nintendo is a company and they are out to make money, just like MS and Sony are. Don't go around with a Holier than thou attitude, because it was Nintendo's arrogance that got them into the hole they are in. Just like Sony's current Arrogance is digging them a hole.

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Whatever, I mean... its still too early to judge. But even so I dont really expect the best graphics out of the Wii. But yeah, I can definitely do better than that.

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For one thing, seeing as how it looks like that's a screen grab off a monitor, you can't expect it to look that good-- any anti-aliasing will be negated by the interlaced signal sent to the monitor. Second, by now, the graphics have likely improved... surely any build they bring to a big games convention is something that they know is stable... not the latest build they burned on a DVD-R three hours before the flight to Germany. And to me, it looks better than the last Burnout to make it to the Cube...

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I have no problem with the game... it probably be just great. I have no problem with EA, (well except the Madden Titles....)

“It’s my game. I started it. It’s my game forever. No one else can be Madden”, said John Madden.

Great, not only is he the king of the obvious, now he taken on a creepy third person speach problem....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14482950/

No my problem with whats here, is why does the car gotta be pink? First the PS2, then the DS, what next? Pink Dell server racks for color-coordinating programers?

"And here we keep my vast collection of donkey dick, and furry porn. So word around the office is you have a fat cock..."

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2805321288258573857&q=sexual+harrasment&hl=en

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Aex,

first off, Nintendo's "arrogance" was under a different president. If you haven't noticed, Iwata is making amends for an old presidents' mistake of shunning third parties and saying that it was a "privilege" to make a game for Nintendo.

And of course I know Nintendo is a company. Of course they're trying to make money. But I'd rather give my money to a company that cares about the customer than a company that just wants your money and could careless if your product breaks a week later.

And what the HELL are you saying when you say Nintendo doesn't make good hardware? Why do you think the Gamecube was the most destroyed system of last gen? Because the only thing that could make it stop working is fire, small explosives, and repeted blows by hammers! Plenty of people have had to buy two or three Playstations because they would stop working due to multiple errors. I've never heard of a person who had to buy another Gamecube because it "broke". I know people that still have an NES and it still works without errors.

So if you still want to be like the way you are, fine. There's nothing I can do to stop you. And just so you know, more than half of the people who post here can back me up on what I'm saying.

Your turn.

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Aex:

First off, Nintendo doesn't really make the hardware. IBM makes the processor, ATi does the GPU, and MoSys gives up the RAM. If you're referring to hardware in the sense of power, then don't blame Nintendo too much. But, as Marc said, they do have some amazingly durable products (dunno what can be said about the DSlites though). They are all quality made and meant to last. My GCN has cracks in it, has been thrown very hard multiple times on hardwood floors, and is even disjointed, but it still works like a damn charm.

Also, I like how people are judging a game by the CRAPPY ASS pics taken. They're blurry, and barely showoff anything of the game. Honestly, it looks like Underground now, but I'm sure it would look better if you saw the screen properly, but probably not really better than current-gen NFS games. Also noted, almost every developer, including Ubisoft, have made these so called "excuses" to the graphics. 2 weeks for Red Steel, "We're adding lighting effects," for Metroid Prime 3, "The Wii version will have bump-maps and better textures" for the new rampage game.

The only game that honestly looks like total shit on Wii is CoD3 and Downhill Jam.

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"The presenters noted that the graphics weren't anywhere near what they wanted them to be"

So, does that mean that these "not too shabby" graphics are not even close to what the Wii can pull off (with them knowing the specs of course), or am I just being hopeful, and that they were really saying that the Wii could not pull off what they wanted?

Ahh, ambiguity. It's what makes this world go 'round.

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THe Wii is a gamecube with a new controller. Why are Nintendo fans expecting More then gamecube graphics. You are buying the Wii for Controls. This is how Developers are keeping their costs down, so they can bring YOU more games. THis console is meant to look like the cube, and maybe make a game like RE4 less difficult.

Get over it.. it's not a graphics powerhouse.. it's not going to be.. The Wii games ARE gamecube games. with a new controller, and an NES emulator.

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"THe Wii is a gamecube with a new controller. Why are Nintendo fans expecting More then gamecube graphics."

Sorry buddy, you're wrong. The Wii is BASED on Gamecube hardware, but it still isn't the actual GCN in a new shell. It is BRAND NEW hardware, that was *based* on the Gamecube.

That makes it easy for developers because now they don't have to spend $50,000+ to make a new game department. They just have to upgrade an old department.


Oh and if you didn't know, you are obviously trashing the GCN graphics. But what you (apparently) don't know is that the GCN actually had the ability to have better graphics than the PS2. Why? Because the GCN IS more powerful than the PS2 (system specs prove me right). It's just that games SEEMED to look better on a PS2 because the PS2 was the obvious favorite of developers.

The GCN had the potential to destroy the PS2 if it wasn't for Nintendo's old president who (as I said before) shunned third parties and said it was a privilege to make a game for a Nintendo system.

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And FYI, I NEVER said the GCN (or the Wii) was a graphics power house. I said that if your a real Nintendo fan, you care about the gameplay (as long as the graphics are up-to-date, which they ARE).

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I think it's perfectly acceptable for EA to present this game without the final graphics intact, because right now the main proving point of the Wii is the controls.

If every game for Wii looked as good as it could, but the controls were not in, do you realize how many much MORE that would raise red flags and doomsday messages about the product?

The control is the Wii, and this conference is meant let people experience the game. This isn't some Sony event where they will show you FMVs of what their games "WILL LOOK LIKE HONEST!!"

Right now it looks pretty crappy, but than again I haven't clicked to see a larger image or anything.

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THESE ARE CLEARLY EARLY GRAPHICS THAT IS CLEARLY A MOBILE PHONE PIC ARE YOU ALL MORONS

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^ That is the smartest thing I've ever heard you say.

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Well, your different president resigned only one year after the GC release. What about the years between 2002-2006? The gamecube was only under "THAT" president for 1 year. What about the rest? I don't see how they went on a upward turn after that, I could be missing something, but even a Failed xbox sold more than the GC over its lifetime.

I said hardware designer, not hardware manufacturer. I'm quite aware that all the companies contract other companies to make hardware for them, but to think they have no part in the design is foolish. Throwing a new control schema on current-gen hardware is not a good design, its just throwing a new control schema on current-gen hardware.

Why you guys are throwing your gamecube around also boggles my mind. I have a gamecube and it just sits on top of my ps2 and neither have ever had problems. Durability doesn't mean good hardware, it means good manufacturing practices. The wii is an upgraded gamecube with a new control schema. It will be slightly more powerful than an xbox and extremely less powerful than a xbox360 and ps3. This doesn't seem like a big deal now, but in 2-3 years it will be when the hardware wont be able to match the software. It is a bad design.

I don't see why all I ever get from nintendo fanboys is excuses as to why something happened or didn't happen instead of just admiting that nintendo isn't the best at designing consoles. I can admit Nintendo's software division is up there with the best of them, if not the best, why can't you admit their hardware division isnt?

Bah I got sidetracked and lost whatever I was thinkin on this topic, so imma just post and hope what I had written wasn't complete crap. If it was, I apologize.

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these pics were obviously taken with a crappy camera and the tv is also crappy(i hate samgsung i think they are the worst company ever). i also think it is bull that people post comments on a nintendo fanboy site saying bad things about nintendo such as "they are not a great hardware designer". and they do have good hardware, my GCN survived a 4 foot drop onto concrete compared to my friends ps2 and xbox which broke for no reason

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"The gamecube was only under "THAT" president for 1 year. What about the rest?"

It only takes one person to get the ball (of failure)rolling.






"Throwing a new control schema on current-gen hardware is not a good design, its just throwing a new control schema on current-gen hardware."

For the last time, the Wii is not current gen. The graphics have been upgraded. The hardware has been upgraded. The control has been upgraded. For EVERY new system, something from the previous one is upgraded. So by your logic, every successor system is a "clone" of it's predecessor.

And about that new control scheme. You say the Wii is a upgraded Gamecube with a new control scheme. But isn't the PS3 just an upgraded PS2 with a new control scheme?






"Why you guys are throwing your gamecube around also boggles my mind."

WE don't do that. Nintendo haters do that stupid shit.






"Durability doesn't mean good hardware, it means good manufacturing practices."

And good maufacturing practices means good and durable hardware.






"It will be slightly more powerful than an xbox and extremely less powerful than a xbox360 and ps3. This doesn't seem like a big deal now, but in 2-3 years it will be when the hardware wont be able to match the software. It is a bad design."

Whatever queer. If you think having a big, powerful system makes you more manly, by all means go spend $600 or $400.






"I don't see why all I ever get from nintendo fanboys is excuses as to why something happened or didn't happen instead of just admiting that nintendo isn't the best at designing consoles."

Oh yeah, like Sony's grill, oops I mean PS3, is more economical. The natural resource that they're using for their Blu-ray drive is running low. So expect a major overhaul in the Playstation at about 3 months after launch.

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