Nintendo Wii Fanboy

$60 for a remote and nunchuck? Are they crazy?

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Oh my god...(bows down to the Wii on his screen)

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#1, my thoughts exactly

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But what will the price be in canada??

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Good parts:
-Channel interface, and being widely enjoyable
-Wii Sports pack-in

Bad parts:
-ONLY WHITE AT LAUNCH!?!?!? I JUST TRADED IN MY WHITE DS FOR THE BLACK ONE!
-No mention on DVD playback. If they want this much options for appealing to everyone, it should be out of the box
-MP3 in 2007? Come on, we were promised on launch
-Remote+Nunchuk is expensive! 35/15 woulda been nicer
-Launch lineup is not what it seemed at all compared to what we thought at E3
-No wifi online games till later (Because if PKMN Battle Rev is the first one and thats in December...)
-but seriously... NO BLACK COLOR AT LAUNCH!!!
-Laucnhes two days after PS3? It seriously makes a difference. Come on, they're ready to do two days before PS3.

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But how many remotes come packaged in?

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@1 Better than paying 40 bucks for another controller and 60 bucks for games, I guess. I am suprised at the launch date itself, apparently Nintendo isn't worried about PS3. Launching after PS3 is a gutsy move. I don't know if it'll pay off or not.

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I must say, nothing too shocking here. Every change makes sense. If you want Zelda on day 1, you need a Wii (good move, Nintendo). Samus and Link get to bask in their respective glories instead of competing (good move, Nintendo). Only 1 SKU, and everyone with a box has something to play (likewise). And 4 million Wiis worldwide in 2006? Nintendo is in good shape, folks.

VC Console pricing also seems right on from a market standpoint. People are going to gobble those games up, despite seeming slightly high in price to a lot of us.

Now would be a great time to own some Nintendo stock if you do not already.

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PS3 will launch 2007..

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..And copy everything they still can from Wii.;D

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should have been $200 for the wii, its only a modded gc. For $250 you want to see 2 controllers and a game. Only including one controller goes completely against the 'wii' thing. This thing should be £150 in the UK ($250 usd = £132), but it won't be.

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at least the launch price is less than $250....

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It's very telling that an extra controller with nunchuck costs $60. That had to drive the price of the system up.

I'd much rather do without Wii Sports and get the system for $199. There is a big difference in the American consumer psyche between $199 and $250, I think.

Interesting that you can save your “Mii” image to the controller. I wonder if you can take game saves with you.

The absolute biggest shock to me is the launch date. If someone buys a PS3 on launch day, they’re not going to have enough money left to have lunch at Burger King, much less buy another console for $250. There won’t be many PS3s on launch day, though, so maybe that won’t be much of a problem for Nintendo.

GameCube Zelda being moved to December doesn’t seem as strange to me as the fact that they are still making a GameCube Zelda at all. I think Twillight Princess should have come out last year for the Cube, but since they couldn’t accomplish that, they should have scrapped the idea all together and put all their resources into polishing the Wii version, especially the controls, to make it the killer launch app it deserves to be.

No Metroid Prime 3 for launch isn’t too back, as long as Red Steel is awesome. One great shooter will hold me for a while. Besides, I’ve always been more excited for Red Steel anyway.

The prices for downloads seem about right, and the large number of titles is great. I can’t wait to see a complete list.

The other Wii channel features are a bit of a oddity. I could care less about having a calendar or news or storing pictures on another device. I just want a game system. Seriously, how many people who are willing to pay for high speed Internet have trouble accessing news or using a calendar program? I don’t think those features will be the draw for non gamers Nintendo wants them to be.

Overall, I’m dissappointed by the higher price and later than expected launch date, but still looking forward to playing Zelda come November.

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Luke? Modded GameCube? Where'd you hear that? Graphically better than the XBox, wouldn't it make more sense to call it a modded XBox?
I love knowing everything, I'm glad I stayed up late last night for the details.

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The only thing I really have a big problem with is the price of games. I don't mind paying $50 for the games I really want, but at $25-$35 I would have been more open to buying games on impulse that looked like they would be fun on the Wii.

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It's very telling that an extra controller with nunchuck costs $60. That had to drive the price of the system up.

I'd much rather do without Wii Sports and get the system for $199. There is a big difference in the American consumer psyche between $199 and $250, I think.

Interesting that you can save your “Mii” image to the controller. I wonder if you can take game saves with you.

The absolute biggest shock to me is the launch date. If someone buys a PS3 on launch day, they’re not going to have enough money left to have lunch at Burger King, much less buy another console for $250. There won’t be many PS3s on launch day, though, so maybe that won’t be much of a problem for Nintendo.

GameCube Zelda being moved to December doesn’t seem as strange to me as the fact that they are still making a GameCube Zelda at all. I think Twillight Princess should have come out last year for the Cube, but since they couldn’t accomplish that, they should have scrapped the idea all together and put all their resources into polishing the Wii version, especially the controls, to make it the killer launch app it deserves to be.

No Metroid Prime 3 for launch isn’t too back, as long as Red Steel is awesome. One great shooter will hold me for a while. Besides, I’ve always been more excited for Red Steel anyway.

The prices for downloads seem about right, and the large number of titles is great. I can’t wait to see a complete list.

The other Wii channel features are a bit of a oddity. I could care less about having a calendar or news or storing pictures on another device. I just want a game system. Seriously, how many people who are willing to pay for high speed Internet have trouble accessing news or using a calendar program? I don’t think those features will be the draw for non gamers Nintendo wants them to be.

Overall, I’m dissappointed by the higher price and later than expected launch date, but still looking forward to playing Zelda come November.

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Ok.. Here's the million dollar question:

Is the Wii going to be region-free?!?!

I read what whatsherface said at E3 and she mentioned it but didn't confirm it. Please oh please let it be region free!

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@luke

£150 would be a fair price, but like you say, I'll not hold my breath. I'd say £199 or some ridiculous price like that.

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The $250 price tag isn't too shocking. I'm a little taken aback by the $60 for a complete controller, but since your profile can be stored on your remote I see it turning into something like the DS... I just don't go anywhere without it. It's a bummer they didn't announce any info on DVD playback, but most people have a DVD player of some sort so we'll survive.

The major thing I wanted to comment on though is that people are getting up in arms on some games not having online multiplayer. Much like 360 and PC games, Wii games can be patched. This means developers, should they feel so inclined, could release multiplayer patches for their games on Wii Channels later on. This also means we can get content updates too.

Let me also bring up another interesting point for people who do not agree with the price. While true Wii Sports probably isn't worth that extra $50, the fact that we won't have to pay a yearly fee for Wii Channels like you have to for Xbox Live is well worth it.

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US launch details

Wii for $250
Wii Sports included
Wii remote included
Wii Strap included
Nunchuk included
Stand included
Nov 19th release
30 NES titles at launch
30 Turbo Graphix16 Titles at launch
10 new Virtual Console titles added every month
Wii has Channels that will own you...
Wii Channel for local forecast
Wii Channel for news
Wii Channel for Shopping
Wii Channel for Mii (my fav)
Wii Channel for Web (Opera)
Wii Channel for Photocasting
Virtual Console titles for about $5-$10

VC systems show up as Channels (Super Nintendo Channel)
White only for US (simplicity)
expected to sell over 4 million in 43 days (until end of 2006)...thats insane
bowling and boxing added to Wii sports
Sensor Bar included

30 launch titles
first party titles are $49.99
500 Wii Points for NES Games
800 Wii points for SNES
1000 for N64 Games
2000 Wii Points for $20
games become thier own channels
the Mii Channel. A digital 3D caricature of you, your friends, your family, anyone you want to create. Three basic ways to interact. Creation, choose a look-alike, 2nd you can start from scratch. Transfer Miis to Wii Remote, take them with you. Populate your games. Wii Sports, etc.
photo viewer can play video clips

There is a Wii Message Board, send messages to other Wii users, PC users, or to cellphones. Leave messages for other family members on your calendar
You can download an Opera browser using Wii points and surf the web
Wii Remote has MSRP of $39.99
Nunchuk attachment has MSRP of $19.99.
All first-party, most if not all, content is widescreen.
2000 Wii points will be roughly $24 Canadian.

thought more details would be better.

.ed

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Nice round-up .ed!

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It should be interesting to see what Nintendo does with the EU release tomorrow, whether they think we're more like the Japanese market or the US.

My bet would be that we get something like the Japanese launch: early December, with no bundled Wii Sports, £130 in the UK.

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Please stop your whining about the price! It's not going to change! If you don't like it, just don't buy the Wii.
Instead of whining, get an extra job and work for those extra $50!
Think about all the work that has been put in these games, and the fun you can harvest from that, instead of whining about something that WILL NOT CHANGE.

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This is disappointing for me. The whole Wii pitch was that it would be less powerful machine that their competitors, but would cost much less and refocus games on fun.

Now, it costs only slightly less, and only has one controller. The one controller thing really ensured that I won't be getting this anytime soon. How much would it really cost them to just include another controller set?

The Wii was going to revolutionize the console market. Now, its just a decision whether you are loyal to a brand or curious about a new controller. Of which you only get one.

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I was pretty dissappointed with the Conference. Here is why:

$250 (if the price was going to be that high why did they lead us to believe otherwise)
$5-10 for the VC (not as bad but just a little much)
No Online Games (also sucks but DS started without Wifi)
Weaker Launch than expected (where are the games like Far Cry , MP3, Splinter Cell, and others that were promised at Launch, also not too big a deal but why mislead us?)

BUT the thing that I think is crazy is thw 60 dollars for the new controller. They have been hyping the multiplayer aspect of this thing forever but to get the additional 3 controllers needed for a 4player game would run you over $180!

Im still going to get one, but I don't think this price justifies the claim that the Wii is the console for the casual gamer.

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I was pretty dissappointed with the Conference. Here is why:

$250 (if the price was going to be that high why did they lead us to believe otherwise)
$5-10 for the VC (not as bad but just a little much)
No Online Games (also sucks but DS started without Wifi)
Weaker Launch than expected (where are the games like Far Cry , MP3, Splinter Cell, and others that were promised at Launch, also not too big a deal but why mislead us?)

BUT the thing that I think is crazy is thw 60 dollars for the new controller. They have been hyping the multiplayer aspect of this thing forever but to get the additional 3 controllers needed for a 4player game would run you over $180!

Im still going to get one, but I don't think this price justifies the claim that the Wii is the console for the casual gamer.

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Wow...bad grammar
Sorry

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Anyone notice the use of points versus plain currency? What do you think the chances are of getting points for doing things in-game? There has to be some way of accumulating points other than purchasing them, otherwise it's a pretty worthless system, though it might just be so that they can set their own exchange rate across the markets.

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>$250 (if the price was going to be that high why did they lead us to believe otherwise)

Did you miss the quote from the Nintendo rep that said that the Wii will not be more than $250 a few months ago? That should have raised the red flags in your mind that the Wii would cost $250. I'm also disappointed with this price--if they have sold 2 Wii controllers and Wii Sports with the Wii, it would have been much better.

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Rurohhhh, looks like Europe´s getting shafted...

http://www.argos.co.uk/wcsstore/argos/images/wii_sm.gif
http://www.argos.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ArgosBrowseCounts?catalogId=10001&storeId=10001&categoryId=42746&languageId=-1&top=N

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@Jimmy:

Dammit, that sucks. Hopefully just Argos being crap as usual. Anybody know if the Wii is going to be region locked?

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No friggin' black...I haven't bought a DS Lite yet cause I want it in black. WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I'm pretty dissapointed by all this... For one thing, the system costs $50 more than any past Nintendo system and it's is comparitively less powerful for its time. Plus, it costs $180 for four players (with nunchucks), which is a necessity for many people (myself included). That puts the price up to $430. It'd be a lot more reasonable if it cost $200 and included two controllers.

Plus, nobody's said anything yet about the cost of the classic controller. It's possible we'll be able to use the GameCube controller to play SNES and N64 games... but I don't think it's very likely given how Nintendo's already sucking so much money out of us for controllers.

Also, $50 for each game is too much when they cost so much less to make than PS3 and Xbox360. I would see $50 as a price only for top-notch games such as Zelda.

One more thing... no online games at launch? When Nintendo is competing with Microsoft's Xbox Live and Sony's new online thing, how can they afford to do that?

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WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU ALL BITCHING ABOUT?!?

Nintendo said it wouldn't cost more than $250. There you go. It's NOT more than $250.

And what is this shit about the system being "weak" or a "modded Gamecube" or the same as an Xbox? Nintendo STILL haven't released the official specs on the Broadway or Hollywood processors.

That's the only thing that disappointed me. I was hoping they'd reveal that today.

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"WHAT THE F**K ARE YOU ALL BITCHING ABOUT?!?
Nintendo said it wouldn't cost more than $250. There you go. It's NOT more than $250."

Actually my friend "Gaye Mann" your incorrect. It IS more than $250, lets not forget taxes young padawan. So the actual cost is $250 + roughly $16.25. Plus if you want to buy another controller your gonna have to shell out $60 bucks more...ohh and lets not forget those beautiful taxes. So yeah kinda dissapointed for the price, even though I will still buy it but I guess I won't be buying Red Steel for a while...I really wanted it at launch :(...and you know why I'm not gonna get it a launch...lets do some math...Wii $250 + Controller with nunchuck $60 + Red Steel (which I'm not gonna buy now) $50 = $360...ohh the irony...and lets not forget the $23 bucks for tax...and the grand total is....$383 dollars...so yeah I'm getting the wii...and some time later an extra game.

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Well, guys. I have posted a few times and I might as well comment about this.
I love nintendo and the games. I am disappointed about the price though. it is obvious just by looking at the price of the controller that that is the big issue!

I wonder if the price being so high has anything to do with the royalties to the "rumble." just a thought. :-)

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I've been waiting for this info since the first time the Revolution news started circulating. Sadly...I feel a little disappointed. Maybe that's because of the prices. I guess the Wii channels did it. Or maybe every person complaining just fell for too many rumors. I know I was one. I just knew it was going to be $200, or at least I wanted to believe it. So instead of being pissed off at Nintendo...think about how you set yourself up.

Anyway, I'm excited about the launch. It comes out 3 days before my birthday. :D

Yet even though I'm a seriously hardcore Nintendo fan - I think I'm going to wait until 07 to get it. So that way the prices will have gone down just a little bit...or when Super Mario Galaxy comes out. ^.^

You know what? I just realized that I have to buy 3 extra controllers.

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I'm not super pleased with the 'paying for Opera' thing, when it was reported all over that it would be a pack in, and not cost you to use.

I'm somewhat upset about the value, they did say that what you were getting you would think its a good value.. I'm not overly convinced.

I'm not super keen on the pricing for games, I'm hoping they change some of that tune and allow start releasing smaller titles under the first party pricing.

I'm not super pleased with the launch date, now going in after Playstation, even though they said they would hit market before.

The controller cost is.. very high.. I realize though its a highly technical piece of equipment though, and hopefully games don't require you to buy 3 other nunchuk attachments for multiplayer (Although, soon as something like Farcry/madden/otherwise show up.. thats all blown)

Maybe it's just me, I realize Nintendo isn't a company to lose money at any point selling its systems or otherwise, I just hope that this is just a little bit in the black, and not a handsome profit on everything.

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I keep thinking...two days after PS3. That makes me very worried, for Nintendo's sake. Will they be able to pull enough sales, coming just after the PS3 rush? I'm starting to think that the only hope for Nintendo is if Godzilla attacks Sony of Japan.

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Damn you Nintendo!

I fell in love with the revolution because it was Badass Black (yup that's the real name of that color)! Since you changed it to Wii, it is white. Therefore, the Wii isn't the coolest thing ever.

All I'm saying is that Nintendo better release it in Black within 2 months of launch, or they're gonna lose me as a customer for a LOOOOONG time.







Didn't THQ have an event in NYC about a month ago where they had Black Wiimotes? That should mean it isn't hard to make a color change, right?

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@Mabui

Downloading Opera from the VC will be free until June 2007.
http://wii.ign.com/articles/732/732745p1.html

Controller-cost is my only complaint. Otherwise, stellar stuff, Nintendo!

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@Mabui

"I'm not super pleased with the 'paying for Opera' thing, when it was reported all over that it would be a pack in, and not cost you to use."

Downloading Opera from the VC will be free until June 2006.
http://wii.ign.com/articles/732/732745p1.html

Controller-cost is my only complaint. Otherwise, stellar stuff, Nintendo!

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That's a typo on IGN's part - should be June 07.

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Some of the comments here crack me up. Everyone's complaining that it's so much more expensive than I thought it would be and it doesn't include all the stuff I thought it would. Keep in mind, all the info you've been hearing about price and what would be included was based on total speculation and rumors. Nintendo is releasing it when they said they would, at the price they said they would. Yeah, it would have been great to get it for $150 on Oct 1 and have it include 4 controllers, 3 games, and a "I heart Luigi" fanny-pack, but that's just not realistic. It's still a much better bargain than the XBox 360 or PS3, and the fact that the system includes any game impresses me -- when's the last time a major console did that at launch? I'll gladly spend $250 for what is sure to be the most enjoyable console of this generation.

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Well...

For months Nintendo has been saying under US$250. They delivered on that, so why are people moaning. Sure I'd love it to be US$150 but come on. Also the controller is a little more expensive than the old style. And it needs a sensor bar.

It has a game bundled (At least in North America), so that's an added bonus.

The release day has me a little perplexed. A bit more saturation before the PS3 would have been nice.

Game price seems good.

The VC prices look spot on. Some site had said they'd be up to $50 which was insane, but it's nice to see they're a respectable $10 bucks.

Metroid not being available is a bummer. I was really looking forward to that and I want to get a few titles on launch.

I like the idea of the channels. Someone above mentioned why view news and weather...Well, I hate having to go to my computer to do that if I'm already in the lounge. This way I can just use the Wii (24 hour on). And besides, the weather viewing app looked damned sexy.


Overall, pretty good news I think

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I, myself wonder why everyone is bitching about the console only coming in white. I really don't mind that much. I mind a little(!) bit for the colour of the Wiimote, but I also don't mind about that too much. Mp3 and DVD playback... meh, I will have my DVD player in the same room so it really doesn't matter. 250 is a little steep, but I don't mind too much about november 19th launch. Umm, I like the channels thing, I think that's a good idea. Hopefully users will be able to make their own channels further down the road. I was dissapointed quite alot about the wifi thing, but I don't use wifi for my ds that much anyway. I think Average - Good news. Oh, and I like teh mii.
MIIYAMOTO :P

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Plenty of disappointment to go around. How much is the XBOX hardware selling for now? $150? The Wii has pretty much the same specs as the first XBOX. Why $250?

November 19th?! Come on! By staying quiet for so long, speculation of October release dates have set the consumer's expectations. I believe there was also some verbage along the lines that the Wii would release BEFORE the PS3. But we all know the real release date of the PS3 will probably be at least 6 months after they send 5 units to each retailer in Nov.

Wii's focus has been on playing with others and getting everyone involved. $60 per controller set? You're making us choose between having everyone involved and buying games. Nintendo is making money on their hardware. 2 controller sets included out of the box is not out of the question.

Let's do some math.
PS3 = System, controller, and 2 games. ($600)
Wii = System($250), controller, 2 games($50), DVD player (at least $50 if it even exists), no Blue-Ray, no HD (high devinition/Hard Drive), inferior hardware = $350

What does a Blue-Ray player cost? $200? What does a USB Hard Drive cost? $100 The PS3 is shaping up, and I'm a Wii fan.

Okay, half the price if you consider the system will come with one game. (A practice that consoles should re-adopt)Don't get me wrong, I'm going to get a Wii and won't go near a PS3, but Nintendo has just made a case for the PS3 whether they know it or not.

The PS3 fanboys are right. So far, the only thing Nintendo has going for it are it's franchise titles and its wireless mouse in disguise.

The prices and launch date are extremely disappointing.

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