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"and it's rumored that some games may be even more expensive than that."

??? i thought some were as much as 800 points already


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I've made one VC purchase, thus far.....the original SMB. Why? As much as I'd love to play a couple of old school Zelda's, I feel like there are other titles in the big N's collection that I would rather spend my hard earned cash on. MK64 is NOT one of them. Kid Icarus, Metroid (any), Goldeneye (yes, I know), etc. Also, hey Ninty.....drop your prices you greedy m-f-er's. I love you, but now you're just taking advantage of that adoration. Stop counting your cash, and throw us a bone!

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I think Nintendo is still testing the waters but they are showing some teeth with the rumored 1200 point price of Ocarina of Time. I hope this trend doesnt continue. I still feel kinda bad for shelling 500 points for Donkey Kong's limited 3 stage romp

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I haven't had a problem with the prices up to this point. But if Nintendo ever gets into the act of driving prices over $10, I'm going to say no. But I love the VC to this point: SMB, Super Mario 64, Castlevania IV, Zelda:LTtP, Ice Hockey, Sonic the Hedgehog and SimCity.

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I've bought 4 VC games. I bought Donkey Kong right when I got my Wii to try out the VC. My fiancee wanted Mario 64. I bought R-Type 3 just to have a space shooter to play. And finally, I got Zelda: LTTP so that I could play every console Zelda game on the Wii.

In general, I won't be getting a VC game if I already have it. The exception was LTTP, but I only have the GBA version.

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I own around 12 virtual console games.

NES: 4x500 = 2000 - $20
Donkey Kong Jr.
The Legend of Zelda
Super Mario Bros.
Gradius

TG16: 1x600 $6
Bonk's Adventure

Genesis: 4x800 = 3200 $32
Sonic the Hedgehog
Ristar
Toe Jam and Earl
Gunstar Heroes

SNES: 2x800 = 1600 $16
Super Castlevania IV
Legend of Zelda Link to the Past

N64: 2x1000 = 2000 $20
Super Mario 64
Mario Kart 64 (later today)

$94 dollars + 1 classic controller = $114

And I have to get more classic's for Mario Kart 64.

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Just bought MK 64 which is frickin' awesome (I never bought it for the N64, don't know why) BUT it was 1000 points which equates to £7.00.
I don't think that's very good value considering the price of second-hand games - which come with packaging etc.

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Because they are bringing the games out at a slow rate I try to avoid impulse buys. For the most part I'm happy with what I own and, more importantly, what I didn't waste money on.

I have Bonk, Super Star Soldier, R Type, Gunstar Heros, Super Castlevania, and Zelda lttp. The only one I regret is Bonk because I remembered after I bought it that the sequels were much better :(. Today I'll probably get Contra III and call it a day(I already have Mario Kart 64 and the only way I'll buy it again is with online play)

P.S. Anyone with a PS2 would be better off getting the Sega Genisis collection for 20 bucs. It has Sonic, Altered Beast, Comix Zone, Vectorman and a whole bunch of other genesis games that they're charging 8 bucs a pop for on the VC.

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I'm sick of these peeps complaining about the VC prices. "Why would I spend so much for a game I already own, that doesn't have any new features?" That's what they all say.

Well, guess what? Not everyone has the systems these games came out on...let alone the games themselves. Maybe Nintendo should only release games that no one owns...I'm sure that would give us a great selection.

And no new features? Are you on drugs? How about the feature that allows you to consolidate FIVE game consoles on to the smallest game console ever? I'd gladly pay the VC prices to not have 5 consoles and their respective controllers and games strewn all around my house. The VC provides a huge convenience...and the cheapskates need to realize that.

If the prices are too rich for your blood...then that's fine, but stop you're damn bitching already! You may not be alone..but you're a small minority..and nobody cares to hear about how $5-$10 is just way too much...because for most...it's not.

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I think old games are exactally that... old.

Bought Gunstar heroes for critical acclaim alone, and rarely play it. Having the Wii and 360 I don't see myself getting bored enough with both systems (not to mention XBLA) to want to rehash games that came out when i was a child. I don't think games age like wine :)

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I have bought more VC games than I thought I would, and despite the fun we are having playing our wii games, my whole family is having a lot of old skool fun. I don't know why, but I have spent more time playing Mario 64 than I have any other game in recent history -- including more time spent on all the Mario games we had for the the gamecube. Weird. My son has also gotten a lot of fun out of Zelda a link to the past, and both of us have had a lot of fun playing Gunstar Heros.

Despite the fact that we have Mario kart for the gamecube I will probably buy the N64 version -- that I have enjoyed the N64 version of Mario more than the gamecube version has made me realize that newer is not better, and my daughter is itching for some Kirby games. While a lot of folks are whining that their favorite games are not yet available, I understand why Nintendo must slowly dole out the games, having some great old games in reserve is probably wise in case there are any game droughts.

I think the prices are quite fair, but if the prices increased I would have to think twice about it. Currently the most expensive games are about 20% the cost of a new wii game, which is probably about what they are worth.

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So far just Toe Jam & Earl and Link to the Past. I've been tempted by Sim City, Sonic, Ristar, and now Contra III.

The pricing feels adequate, but it's not low enough for me to be making impulse buys. I still put a lot of thought into my VC purchases. If they were less, that might not be the case.

Also, if Ocarina of Time were $12, I'd be disappointed, but would still get it. My view is that lackluster games should cost less than full price; not excellent "game of the year" games cost more than full price.

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My feeling is that pricing should be low enough to encourage me to build a vast library of classic titles. I should be excited about buying 20+ games, but since the Wii launch I've purchased exactly one (Gunstar Heroes, because I had never played it before). For this reason I feel the costs are much too high. There are too many perfectly good Gamecube and PS2 games sitting in the bargain bin to bother with $8 Super NES games.

For example, a few weeks back I was able to purchase Odama for $10 at Toys R Us, and it even came with a microphone. Granted, this was an unusually low price, but I'm always amazed at what I manage to find for $10 or $20. Many high-quality titles get ignored and end up the in bargain bin. If I'm being forced to choose between an excellent bargain bin title and Mario 64, I know what I'll be choosing every single time.

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I am in the camp who say the VC titles are overpriced for what is delivered. The only advantage they have over the generally lower priced second-hand cartridges, to my mind, is the clutter control aspect mentioned already. To gain that, you give up all the usual rights of ownership (lending, reselling, trading, portability, etc.), limit the selection you would normally have buying old cartridges, lose some of the nostalgia that would come with using the original controllers and hardware, and miss out on the visceral aspects of getting a physical manual, box, and game cart for your money. Honestly, these things should be no more than $1.99 if you ask me.

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I've only picked up Wario's Woods because I like puzzle games. I'm reluctant to spend the Wii Points I've purchased. I might go for Contra 3, though, and maybe the original Zelda. We'll see.

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I haven't bit on any VC titles yet (in spite of gems like LttP being out there!) because I can spend that 10 bucks at EB on something that came out 3 years ago for e.g. PS2 and frankly have similar amounts of fun, probably for a longer time. I think of it in terms of dollars per hour of enjoyment, and so far nothing on VC looks likely to hold up to the gold standard -- older PS2 and Xbox games bought dirt-cheap used.

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@ 15

You forgot one of the main advantages. Some old carts that rely on battery backup to save games breakdown after a while. I have an old copy of Super Metroid, but sometime my saves will just disappear. So when they release Super Metroid for the VC I'll be very happy to download it so I never have to lose my saves again:)

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theres games up to 1000 which are the N64 games, but i think $10 isnt so much for an N64 game, is it?

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So far I have bought two VC games, SMB and Street Fighter II. The Mario Kart series was the first thing that came to mind when I first heard about the VC. Cannot wait to get home tonight. I was lucky enough to find a couple of classic controllers this weekend so I have a feeling that i will be ramping up my collection. The prices are fine so long as it stays at 1000 pts. Having nintendo night with a couple buddies makes it worth it.

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Here's how I see it:

The VC games are more expensive than I expected them to be and more expensive than I wanted. I expected a pricing scheme more in line with:
NES - $3 [300 points]
SNES, Genesis, TurboGrafix - $5 [500 points]
N64 - $8 [800 points]

The real pricing scheme makes me think about my purchases, but not much more than if they were a few bucks cheaper.

I find myself buying one game every week or two. I think the VC IS going to help with dry spells. Example - I'm nearly finished with Twilight Princess, but I just bought LoZ:LttP and it's keeping me busy, too.

LoZ:OoT is expected to be 1200 points ($12). Now, that's approaching a point where I won't be buying any games just for nostalgia. I'll still consider games that I haven't played, though. I won't be buying OoT regardless of the price because I've played it half a dozen times, plus I have the GC disc that came with the Wind Waker preorder. But I WILL buy LoZ:MM at $12 because I didn't really play that game that much. But that's a stellar game. GoldenEye, if the licensing was ever available, would be worth $12. But I won't pay $10 for Mario Kart 64 because I have Double Dash.

I guess the VC can nickel and dime you, but if you are semi-smart with your points (as I'm sure anyone without a credit card is due to the lack of points cards), you can get a lot of gems for a fair price.

The VC is most definitely what I want and expected it to be, even if it costs me a few bucks extra. The only thing I ask - MAKE IT FASTER!

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My first complaint with the VC the manual. When I downloaded The Legend of Zelda I was extremely excited to read the original manual. However, apparently "manual" on the VC means "list of basic instructions."

The Legend of Zelda manual that was shipped with the game back in the '80s had all sorts of useful hints and a supplemental storyline. If I wasn't able to find it on the internet, I would be without it.

My second complaint is the price. While I love the VC, my purhcases are limited to "must-have" titles. If the pricing were lower, I would be enticed to try games that I have never played (or perhaps even heard of). I don't mind covering their costs, but I don't think that the Big N should be trying to profit heavily off these old titles.

With that said, Nintendo is awesome and I think that they do a great job keeping the customer in mind.

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Hi y'all.
IMHO, the VC games are adequately priced, except when it is decided that some are worth more than others despite playing on the same system, as is the case for R-Type on the TurboGrafx (I know that Japan has it worse than the USA, as they have to download two halves of the game for 600 points each, but it's still no excuse).
I agree with HenryFatass (comment #9) when he says that not every one has played every single game on every single system (or owns them). I, for one, never owned a NES (heresy!!!), a Genesis (though I've played quite a few games on it), a TurboGrafx or a Nintendo 64 (I'm still kind of a gamer, as I've owned - in order of purchase - a Sega Master System, a Game Boy, a Super NES, a Game Cube and a Game Boy Advance) and it thrills me to discover great new (to me!) games on any of these systems (or on the Super NES, since I'm one of those people who has not played every single game on the Super NES - I have played Smartball, though).
If some games are overpriced, they must be actual Wii games, not VC games. For the price of your average Wii Game ($50- for most of them), I can (and did) purchase Super Mario 64, Super Mario Kart 64, Toe Jam & Earl, Bonk's Adventure, Alien Crush and Gunstar Heroes (that's SIX games, some of which I'm sure I'll still play months from now) and still have (200) points left over for when Nintendo announces their virtual bargain bin or their huge summer sale.
I also purchased a few Super NES games such as Contra III, Street Fighter II, Super Castlevania IV or A Link to the Past (which I've played on the Super NES and on the Game Boy Advance, but which I still love to play).
IMHO again, the main problem with the VC releases is not the price, but the fact that every person has different games they are hoping for and they are hoping for every game to be released instantly.
If you don't want to pay hard earned Wii Points for games that you already own, nobody is forcing you. But games are cheap enough that - maybe after checking up on them on the internet - you might be pleasantly surprised if you give a game you've never heard of a try (I'm about to download Comix Zone).
Finally, I almost forgot that I believe some of the games are actually overpriced (all that rambling and I almost forgot...); why pay 800 points for Sonic the Hedgehog when for barely double the price (probably a similar price if used), you can find the Sonic Mega Collection on Game Cube, which contains 6 other games (and 7 more unlockable games) and which plays on the Wii?
To conclude (I know, I already said finally, but it didn't sound like much of a conclusion, did it?), I will say that I love the concept of the Virtual Console. It's great to play oldies from 5 different systems on a single one (sorry, HenryFatass, I swear it's the last time I'm going to plagiarize you... I think). It's great to not be cluttered by boxes and cartridges (sorry, did it again!). It's great that because Nintendo doesn't release every game at once, you get a full week to enjoy a game (or 2... or 3?!? Why did Nintendo feel the need to release 4 games this week when one of them - Super Mario Kart 64 - is already gonna take all my waking hours???).
Now, if only they'd release Super Mario RPG for 200 points...

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VC prices are high enough to make you think before the purchase and cheap enough to make a decision without a lot of buyer remourse(sp?). I am not too worried about pricing right now, because the library is going to be growing rapidly and I can wait for the more desirable titles. However, I believe Nintendo need to look at the long term vision of the VC and make some changes in the near future...As people buy their Wii for the first time they will be overwhelmed by a bigger and bigger selection and pricing will become magnified. I believe as a legitimate gaming fan/customer I should be able to get a lot of these games for essentially cost plus a small margin while Nintendo obviously feels that this is a way to finance previouse failures and future investments. In a lot of ways it is Nintendo's licence to print money. I gotta believe everytime we buy a VC title Nintendo makes about 80-90% of it back.

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So far I've only bought Ecco the Dolphin (for my daughter) and Toe Jam & Earl (for my wife). There are some games there that intrigue me, but I haven't pulled the trigger on buying for one simple reason...

The pricing scheme doesn't really bother me, it seems about right. What DOES bother me is having to buy Wii Points in $20 increments. I currently have 400 points leftover after my 2 purchases mentioned above. That's 1 dollar less than I need for a NES title, so now I have to spend $20 more if I want to get anything. I don't like that. I totally understand having 2000 point ($20) cards that people can buy at their local brick & mortar, but I should be able to purchase the exact amount that I want/need by shopping online with my Visa.

That's the only thing that's kept me from buying more VC stuff. What do you guys think? Am I nuts? (a very real possibility)

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I have not yet purchased any VC games as I haven't really been able to justify the cost. It seems odd to me that Nintendo might release a $12 VC Ocarina of Time when I got the Zelda collector's edition for free when I got my GameCube. And that had The Legend of Zelda, A Link to the Past, Ocarina and Majora's Mask. Does it seem right that I should now have to pay $20+ for the same thing? Well, not me at least, cause luckily the Wii plays GC discs.

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@Scott,

See, that's the exact reason I DO buy with my credit card.

When I heard the VC was going to allow credit cards, I assumed you would just link your card to your account. Then, all you'd have to do is click the two download buttons and your CC would be charged the exact amount. That's what you are looking for, and it would be a nice option, but I'd be worried that my brother (or any one of the other 3 people that jumps on the VC regularly using my console) would just be shop-happy and download a bunch of unneeded games.

With the current system, I can buy a lump of points periodically and it limits the amount that can be spent in any given amount of time between me using MY credit card to buy more points. That way, instead of being able to buy all of the games, my brother is limited to the amount that is available in my current coin stash.

Plus, it's not like you lose those remaining points. I have 100 points left over from my first 2000 (bought SMB, Bomberman, and LttP for 1900 total points) - but when I purchased another 2000 points I have a total of 2100. Eventually those remainder points will be used up, especially if I keep getting hit with awesome releases every week! :)

So, I wish they had both systems:
1) Link your credit card for automatic deduction of the exact amount
2) Buy points with your credit card (aka current system)

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I just bought 4 GC games to play on my Wii, all used (Thanks GameStop!) but in PERFECT condition.

F-Zero GX - $8.
Zelda:WW - $15.
Metroid Prime - $6.
Fire Emblem - $13.

There's no way I'm spending $5 on NES games when I can buy good/decent GC games for almost the same price, and classic/must-have GC games for $10-15. There is no way Nintendo isn't making huge profits off the VC. Yes, they have to pay costs to host and distribute the games (though we're talking mostly games that come in at under 10mb, many less than 1mb. Most N64 games don't even break 50mb so it's not like they have to buy tons of new massive multi-terabyte storage servers to host the VC games), but it sounds like they're making plenty of sales and I highly doubt they're not deep in the green.

Drop your prices Nintendo!

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I refuse to buy another VC games until Nintendo knocks it off with the "points only purchasable in increments of 1000" scam. Unlikely that'll ever happen though.

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I have Super Mario Bros., Altered Beast, Dungeon Explorer, R-Type, ToeJam & Earl, Bomberman '93, and Gunstar Heroes.

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Whoa, Metroid Prime for $6?!? I'm gonna have to pick that up. The Wii is getting me interested in so many games I missed. I can buy the old Metroid Primes and Paper Marios for super cheap now, and then get the new Wii sequel.

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the only "new features" i'm interested in is online multiplayer. i would probably be purchasing more games if some of them had this.

personally, the prices aren't horrible, but the idea of charging more for the popular games seems slightly evil.

my biggest worry now is that i'm going to fill up the memory on the wii too quickly... and then i guess it's swapping them onto an SD card.

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I agree with Poster #9... I've purchased quite a few VC games so far... most of them being turbographix 16 games... I never had one of these as a kid, and man... it's just so great! I can't believe I missed out... playing these games on the Wii is a GREAT conveinience... I get to play them on my big tv in the living room, without an emulator running on a pc hooked up to my tv, with an actual game controller not just the keyboard or generic 'gamepad' for pc... I'm already very familiar with the gamecube pad, using the wii remote for tb16, gen, and nes games is FANTASTIC... I didn't think it would be but it's just so damn comfortable... n64 games seem to have a slight touch up to them in resolution (this has already been proven in sm64, look it up), so it looks even better in places than it did on the old n64 (course, worse in other places that you weren't supposed to see at default resolution)... I don't get what the complaining is all about? If you don't like it, then don't buy them... I also have an xbox360, and they have lots of added classic games on XBLA... if those are the only games you considered 'great' and you own all the other game systems and carts and controllers still, then you're better off ignoring VC right now... but for the rest of us, this shit is goddamn GOLD. The games on XBLA are not the best games in the world to me... but many sega, hudson, and nintendo games ARE. And with some of the games playable up to 5 players... man... you guys can keep mouthing, I'm going to go play some more VC games.

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Well, my entire cartridge collection (for NES, SNES, N64, and a decent sega genesis library too) was stolen by an ex girlfriend... so the VC gives me an easy way to rebuild my absolute favorites without having to spend months tracking them down at local stores. Buying them all on e-bay would have the shipping almost as much as the VC download, so I'm not even going to bother with that. Actually, this was one of the major driving factors that caused me to camp out in front of Best Buy all night in freezing weather.

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I never understood arguing over price point. If you don't want it, don't buy it. I'm sure the major obstacle is that Nintendo & the companies it allies with wants to make money, so $1.99 games isn't helping them. I still think the price of VC games will come down eventually. For now, be happy you have something to complain about (the Wii and VC).

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@34:

Since you don't understand arguing over price point, Will, let me attempt to explain it to you (trying not to use any big, economist words).

You start a business baking and selling pies with the goal of making as much money as possible. If you sell pies for $1,000 you will make a handsome profit on each pie sold, but you won't sell many. If you sell them for a penny more than your costs, you will sell a lot of pies, but will it be worth your time? We can graph the middle ground here as a bell curve of profit over price point. Somewhere there is a sweet spot.

Nintendo believes this sweet spot is $8 for a SNES ROM. I think they have overshot it. Consider that the development costs of all these games has been paid in full long ago, so their profitability point (the lower bound of our graph) is incredibly low. In fact, it is almost certainly under $2, so we're closer to the thousand dollar pie situation than the other end. (Oh, by the way, the cost of hosting and distributing downloads is almost negligible compared to the physical manufacturing and trucking costs they're used to.)

But in the end it is their decision. So why argue over it? Well, many of us who see these prices as unreasonable would still like to participate in the good (and would, were there lower prices), and Nintendo have left us in the cold. In fact, I could make a case for an alternative business model where Nintendo charges a flat fee, say $50, for all you can eat, unlimited VC. This is called a value-added proposition. It gives people another reason to own the Wii even if they are turned off by a $50 minigame collection with goofy controls. And since Ninty are the only player in this game actually making a profit on each console hardware bundle sold, this is reasonable for them to consider.

I have a love/hate relationship with that company, and their handling of the Virtual Console (high prices, slow release schedule, poor title choices, suboptimal transaction system) provides a perfect illustration of why. It's sad to see such a great idea executed so badly.

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It's been awhile since I purchased any Wii points, but weren't the options for $10, $20, $30, and $50?

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The prices are too high, that's for sure. I'd willingly drop a hundred bucks on VC games if I thought my money was going pretty far, and it easily could because of the low overhead here. But instead they're trying to milk it, so I'll only be buying the must-haves. You can have as much of my money as you want, Nintendo, just give me more for it and we have a deal.

But the pricing isn't even what really pisses me off. Where is the option to buy points in higher quantities at a lower price? The prices don't scale at all, unlike the XBLA points. I would have put down $50 the day I bought my Wii if I could have gotten a good deal on points, because that's at least one way to get more for your money.

I'm still hoping they will see the light here.

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I agree that the VC prices are to high to be impulse buys...especially if they aren't adding things like online multiplayer.

When the VC was first announced, it was THE reason I wanted a Wii. I was even hoping, after being largely let down by the 6th generation overall, that the Wii would be my final console. I could proudly say I owned every Nintendo system up until that point.

Alas...Nintendo NEEDS to drop the prices by $2.00 across the board if they aren't going to add in features. And come on- online multiplayer should be simple. Every emulator can do it, practically!

Would I buy an NES game for $3.00? Hell yes! I'd buy an SNES/Genesis game for $5 or $6 bucks, too. Those are impulse buy prices.
They also need to have a "Bargain Bin" of old, forgotten games that ranges in price from, like, $.50 to $2.00...or generally cost less.
Furthermore, I see no point, really, in letting things trickle out like this. Release it ALL. I want at least 10-20 new games up a week...not 3 or 4.

Also...ditto on the whole using your credit card to buy the games for their exact amounts. This 1000 points increments stuff is absolute crap.

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I have bought precious few VC games so far and while I have a bunch of points still floating around I have yet to spend them. I got my Wii right at launch and was really excited about it. For Christmas I was given two wii points cards. Last year I was able to get a 360 right at launch and for Christmas I got a Microsoft points card. I hafta say that I have found many more things I would like to download on XBLA than on the VC. Also the prices seem rather high on both but to me it doesn't make sense. Nintendo is making a killing on these games. I'm not entirely sure but I believe that most of the cost is pure profit whereas on XBLA a lot of the cost goes to the developer for pay for developing a new game. Why not drop the prices down. I shouldn't be sitting here wishing I could trade my Wii Points for Microsoft Points. I just want better value.

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I don't really have a problem with paying for these games, even though I have owned a majority of them.


For all those people who have emulators and whatnot.... (wink wink) I just feel like it's not the same. Sometimes theyre jaggy. Sometimes the sound is off. This is the perfect way to enjoy those old games that you sometimes can't find anymore.


I have 6 VC titles, and enjoy every one of them.


Prices? cmon people... are we really pissing and moaning about ten bucks? Go buy a new game for 60 for xbox 360, then piss and moan. I do.

if you honestly look at it, I throw 20 bucks a week into my Wii Points. In a month, that's 80 bucks. It doesn't break my wallet, and I'm not rich either. I dunno who's poverty stricken here, but maybe you shouldn't have thrown down the $250 USD if youre gonna be complaining about 3, 5, 8, and 10 dollar games.

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At some point, I think most classic game fans are going to realize they would spend a bunch more overall if each game was cheaper. I know there are 4 or 5 games already I would have bought if they were probably just a buck or two cheaper.

Ninty priced them too high, in my opinion... AH, but remember, they can lower the prices of all the first year releases, say... next year to help give them more steam. Or maybe they can't risk that knowing it might cause a backlash and lots of waiting games by their customers.

Anyway, I think the prices are just enough to hurt here in the US and Nintendo knows Americans enough to know that they'll pay 'til it hurts for convenience and entertainment.

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I love the VC titles, and I rented several. Notice I said "rented" not bought. Why? Well here is a little bit of info I found out with some recent Wii repair issues. Now this is the word from Nintendo themselves:

VC titles can NEVER be transferred to a different console, even if you deactivate or sell the original. The games are tied to the individual consoles serial number, not your account. I.E. Lets say you got your shiny new Wii and just bought a dozen VC games...then heaven forbid the console itself meets an untimely demise (stolen, run over by a car, burned in a fire, eaten by your dog, whatever) and you cannot get it repaired for whatever reason. Well, guess what: you LOST EVERYTHING PERMANANTLY. That's right, even though nintendo keeps a record of what you buy (check out your account on mynintendo.com, it shows all your VC games) they will not allow you to download them again to a new console under ANY circumstances whatsoever. PERIOD. So, you are now out your console, and all those wonderful VC games, forever. That is, unless you want to pad Nintendo's pockets all over again. This is inexcusable. They have records that you bought the games, so why can't you re-download them again to a new console. I dont mean copy, I mean MOVE. I.E. when it is downloaded on one console, it deactivates on the other. Dont tell me there is no way to do this, XBLA does it just fine... An easy fix would be that the games can't be moved unless you call or contact nintendo and remove the original console's serial number from the active list, since the wii does it's updates automagically, it would be real simple for the unit to check it's "ok" list of VC games, then deactivate the ones that arent on the list anymore. For consoles that are not connected to the net...then how did you download the VC game to begin with? Simple solution to a problem that is DEFINATELY going to bite Nintendo in the rear in the near future.

I was shocked to hear this from nintendo. I kinda feel betrayed to be honest and I will never buy another VC title, EVER.

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Gamecube SD Gecko Adapter: $25
GC Pro Action Replay: $20
1 GB SD Card: $15
Total: $60

Spend this $60 bucks, and you can run gamecube-based emulators for SNES, Genesis, NES, and more.

I believe it's legal to do this, too, so long as you own the original games and use those roms.

It's a slight hassle, but if you have the equipment to do the dumps (or if you don't care and just want to steal old roms), you can save yourself a lot of VC money this way, and you don't have to wait for Nintendo to re-release old games.

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