Nintendo Wii Fanboy

There is a competition at this forum to win 2000 Wii points if anyone is interested

http://mariokartwii.com/viewtopic.php?t=48

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So far I've spent 12000 Wii points on a modest collection of childhood memories. Here's to the rest of 2007 that hopefully bring us more great games of the past.

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I've spent 12,900 Wii Points on my collection so far.

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I've only spent 800 points on Super Mario World.

If I were to get every single game I even *might* consider buying, it would cost about 10,100. That's 13 games for about the price of two new games. That's seems like a pretty good deal to me.

They aren't all worth the price, but the good ones are. And I wouldn't bother paying $8 for Legend of Kage, so the price doesn't bother me at all.

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I have no problem with the vc prices either. I'm only buying the games I really want. I have no problem paying 1000 points for Super Mario 64 or 500 points for Kirby's Adventure. Granted some games are not worth the price. Offering some special deals on the games that are not selling so well might not be a bad idea.

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5500 points so far...i really wish they were about 100-300 points cheaper each though...

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The virtual console is a terrible feature on an otherwise really incredible console. The worst part is all the official talk from Nintendo before the launch about how it might even be free. Or region free, as NOE claimed, so you could download foreign games. Or have more than 30 games at the start, a trivial request as all they really have to do it put the data up for downloading. Or have some demo trials for popular games. Or online capability for multiplayer games. Or let you upload save games to a server, or a flash stick. Etc...

As it exists now, it's terrible, especially relative to what they claimed. I'm not using it. I might buy one or two hard to find SNES games once there's more games available than I have toes, but I'm not going to support this crapfest of an online classic game service with anymore than that... especially considering how awesome they promised it would be.

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GlitchCog,

"The worst part is all the official talk from Nintendo before the launch about how it might even be free."

It sucks that you bought into the fanboy hype about that, but I doubt you'll find even one quote from a Nintendo employee that even hints that. In fact, when the VC was unveiled at E3, Iwata clearly said that the games would be released for a small price. Pay attention next time.

"Or region free, as NOE claimed, so you could download foreign games."

A Nintendo rep hinted at this recently (although that's hardly a confirmation). It's still very possible that previous Japan-only games could be translated and make their way to North America.

All of the other stuff you listed was just rumors that you hoped were true.

Hype is dangerous if you fall in too deep. It sucks, but you can't hold Nintendo responosible for your fantasies.

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VC helps make Wii the ultimate budget console - i could buy Sonic: Secret Rings for $50, or i could buy Kirby, Zelda SNES, Zelda 64, DK Country, and Comix Zone for $40. that's a ton of gameplay for the money, especially for this former sega kid. before this week, the only Zelda i'd spent any time on was the NES original.

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I got two cards (2000 points each) for christmas. Got about 1900 points left now. Once those are gone, I'm done. I would never actually spend my own money on old games. Having said that, however, I DO like having the opportunity to play TG16 games, since I never owned the console back in the day.

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I have only gotten 1000 points. Im gonna get 1000 more once I run out of good pc and wii games to buy.

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It calculates R-Type as 600 instead of 800.
That's the only game I've bought so far, though. I really wish I waited for some more games to be released before I bought the points card. I might get a SNES or NES game, but I'm holding the rest of my points for channels or something.

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8600 spent for me.

$86 (roughly) for 11 games? That's a good deal. Especially because I bought all the "bliss" games that i used to play as a child.

I think the price is just right if you ask me. (My average is about $7.80 per game. If you look on ebay for all the games that I bought, I doubt you'd find any of them around that price!)

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"Your selections would cost 26500 Wii Points."

Man that is depressing. Does that mean I've spent $265? Jesus. I haven't been keeping track. Wow...

Well. The virtual console is my favorite aspect of the Wii. I just can't pass those classics up. I was one of those poor kids in the '80s that never got to experience the super Nintendo, Nintendo 64, turbographics - I had an NES and a Sega, and I barely had any games for those two.

Now I have money, and I want to spend it on games, lol. So I do.

I've said before and I'll say it again, I totally agree with the prices on the VC, I think the games are worth the amount they are charging.

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I wish they had a bigger range within the prices they're charging -- some of the really crappy Genesis games are the exact same price as NES Zelda. If they charged less for less popular titles, or maybe put some of them on "sale" every once in a while, I might bite. As it stands, I haven't gotten anything because it's all either iffy games I don't want to spend money to discover if I like, or AAA gems that I already owned and played to death. I keep waiting for the good stuff I missed (mostly N64, probably), but nothing has dropped in that category yet.

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Sorry, Probot. You couldn't be more wrong. Fanboy hype was not the source for my hope. Pay attention yourself.

These ideas came straight from Nintendo corporate mouthpieces:

http://www.n-philes.com/index.php?id=2005
Jim Merrick of NoE claimed that the Virtual Console would be region free

Note that this is not recent news. 2005. I specified that these claims were made before the launch in my post, but I guess you ignored that.

http://www.joystiq.com/2005/06/03/nintendo-revolutions-classic-nintendo-games-will-be-free/
George Harrison of NOA claiming that Virtual Console games would be free, as reported on Joystiq, no less.

But you did a good job acting like you knew what you were talking about. Congratulations on that. And a big thanks for your condescending yet useless lesson on hype. It was sweet.

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Probot,

Here's the actual statement from George Harrison:

"Well, we can use it in a variety of ways. We've used some of the older games already as little bonuses, either as bonus gifts or hidden in levels of games. Certainly for the first-party titles we'll be making some of those available. We haven't really talked about whether we would sell them. The third parties can make their own decision whether they want to sell them, or maybe they will add it on as sort of a free benefit when you buy a current version of the game."

"We haven't really talked about whether we would sell them." -as in should we sell them or give them away?

"The third parties can make their own decision whether they want to sell them, or maybe they will add it on as sort of a free benefit when you buy a current version of the game." -as in third parties, should they decide not to do the previously mentioned "sell them" would give them away as free benefits when buying other games. If third parties are doing it, why wouldn’t Nintendo?

Shigeru Miyamoto, E3 2005:
"We have not set a price or determined a list of software for the Nintendo Revolution download service. But, we're looking at this as a consumer service and not so much from the business end."
Here's Miyamoto saying they're not trying to make money off the virtual console.

I'm going to stop looking up these old quotes now. You research it yourself if you still don't get it. Nintendo, not fan hype, lead us to believe that the pricing would be free to cheap. Nintendo said it would be region free. Nintendo was the source of hype. Despite your fanboy-esque attempt to divert the blame away from them, the fact remains that they committed Sony-level deception about their virtual console.

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GlitchCog,

The link about region free isn't really proof of anything. It just lists what someone said, not an actual quote. Even if they did say something to that effect, you always have to assume it'll change. Read my last warning again. "Hype is dangerous." PR agents are supposed to create hype. You learned a valuable lesson in not believing something until you actually see it for yourself.

Second, as for the price quotes, you forget one minor, technical detail. Nintendo doesn't sell VC games at all. They simply sell you Points. That doesn't mean VC games are free, but they don't have a dollar amount attached to them.

So the Harrison quote about "selling" games could refer to the point system. And you are *really* stretching that Miyamoto quote.

And finally, the VC is still in its infancy. There very well may be free games in the future, and thus would nullify your entire argument. But like I said, you shouldn't believe that until you see it for yourself. But if in 2012, Nintendo launches its next system and there was never a free VC game, then I'll rightfully apologize.

It's a good idea for you to stop looking up old quotes, because the only ones that matter are the actual details about the system, not just some off-handed comments about something that has yet to be finalized.

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Thank you. I thought of it and tried to find someone to code it for me and the link is the end product. You can also mass select the games by clicking the console name. And yes I will include the other regions but that would be a bit to much for right now. Later it might (if possible) be shown by region.

Click (from drop-down menu) the region & the games (and console) of that place come up & you know the rest.

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0 Wii Points. I'm not paying for something I can't hold in my hands.

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Probot,

Hype is dangerous? I'm fine. Maybe a little disappointed, but it's not a big deal. I'm just not buying virtual console games. You're trying to frame this issue like it's one of danger. It's not. It's just corporate lies. You really don't have to warn me about the scary hype trap you've invented. It's simply not scary. We're discussing your misjudgment on the source of these lies, not your misjudgment of how dangerous they are.

More Nintendo officials than just Jim Merrick said it'd be region free. That link might not have his actually quote, but that doesn't change the fact that he and others did say it.

The fact that Nintendo doesn't sell virtual console games, but points, is exactly what you said... a technical detail. But you raise this "technical detail" sarcastically as if to say it's a big deal to prop up your argument. It doesn't matter if you buy VC points to buy Game Rupees which you use to buy gold bars that then is used to buy video games. It still comes down to a certain amount of money per game regardless of any exchange rates they go through. Why would Harrison comment on the price of an as-of-yet-unknown intermediate currency that hadn't been mentioned yet? If he were talking about that, it'd just be another attempt to deceive, although I'd concede that it wouldn't be an all-out lie if that were the case. And the Miyamoto quote wasn't stretched at all. He said matter-of-factly that they were pushing this as a feature, not a cash cow. No stretch, even by your wild imagination where the existence of hype excuses companies from telling the truth.

And finally, even if the Virtual Console becomes what they promised, these are still valid points now. Here. In the real contemporary world. Which is the one I was, and I thought you were, discussing here. If you want to argue about some possible future where Nintendo just pushes their entire software library onto every game console and computer in the world, I'm afraid I'll have to concede that I don't have enough clairvoyance to debate you on it.

Off handed comments? These are direct quotes from guys who are paid to not lie like this to avoid pissing off fans like me. They are the ones who talk to video game press about what their products will be once they exist. They didn't do that. They talked about what they would be if they were good enough to warrant my business, and then they never delivered.

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You could just download the nes, snes, genesis, emulators for computer and get the roms for all of those games for free. Not that I do that or encourage it....

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