Nintendo Wii Fanboy

Agreed, Sir Hinkle. Everybody and their Mom's DAD is gonna get this game when it comes out. It will be the Mario game of this decade, if not the most significant new Mario in over 15 years!

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By 'this game' I meant Super Mario Galaxy.

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If Pachter knew the difference between sh*t and Shinola, then I might consider his opinions valid.

Alas, I do not believe that to be the case.

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I'm looking forward to Galaxy more than SSBB, but the fact remains that Galaxy + SSBB would move more systems than Galaxy alone. SSBB Brawl will still be a system mover once it releases, but since that's going to be after the holidays, this does present an opportunity for MS to grab some holiday dollars that would have otherwise been going to Nintendo.

Acknowledging that it has an impact is not the same as admitting defeat.

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I think its smart because its not like there are going to be a lot of Wii units to buy this holiday anyway so this will just mean lots more people buying in Feb. And then Wii Fit for us around that time I imagine.

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Wait... isn't Guitar Hero III coming out for Wii anyway?

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Troy, i'd say Mario 64 was the most significant mario in the past 15 years.

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His argument is a terrible one:
"instead of Nintendo being the clear winner this holiday, maybe Microsoft has a chance of keeping up."

According to him Microsoft will only "maybe" have a chance of keeping up with the doomed console. Still sounds like Nintendo is coming out the winner.

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Sure, Jumbo, it is NOW! I really think this one will be better. Look at how it has music from Mario 3 for NES, and all the powerups, plus a bunch of cool new ones, plus cool levels that are like forced 2d by having narrow walkways. How about NOSTALGIA+INNOVATION! How about no camera problems, but only 3D PERFECTION. That is what I see coming to us on November 12th. And it will be a HUGE DEAL.

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Smash Bros doesn't need the holiday period, because people will still buy it for themselves. It's not a present-only game.

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Epilogue: Holy crap, I wrote a novel!

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I'll come right out and say it... Halo 3 notwithstanding, there is there little-or-no chance whatsoever that Microsoft will catch up to Nintendo, or even beat their sales numbers, in this upcoming season. Super Smash Bros: Brawl's availability (or lack thereof) will have a less-than-significant impact on performance this Christmas.


Look, I know everybody *here* (myself included) is frothing at the mouth for SSB:B, but you all have to realize that we're in the minority as highly-connected, hardcore gamers. A whole lot of Nintendo console owners (the clear majority, I'd wager) have *never* purchased a Super Smash Brothers title in any incarnation. A slightly larger percentage have played someone else's copy, and many more have heard of it. The negative effect of its absence from the shelves for the next three months can't begin to compare to the positive effect of the *presence* of universally appealing titles that EVERYONE has been waiting for. Especially one in particular...

Super Mario Galaxy is going to sell approximately 1.2 metric f*ckloads more copies than SSB:B ever will, regardless of when the latter is released. It simply has a much broader appeal and notoriety than (the comparatively niche) SSBM. SMG will be a must-have title this holiday season, and it will be readily available as such.

Now, take into account the other imminent, highly anticipated game releases for Wii: Zack and Wiki, Manhunt 2, Fire Emblem:RD, Mario & Sonic, Rayman:RR2, Trauma Center:NB, Link's Crossbow, Super Swing Golf, NiGHTS:JoD. I know I'm missing a couple.

Finally, add to that the increased availability of consoles for the holidays, and we're looking at an unprecedented spike in holiday console sales for Nintendo. And this guy wants to talk about a slump in the numbers for Wii and its titles? There is absolutely no chance. And let's not even *talk* about DS sales...

Indeed, the delay of SSB:M may be a very good thing for the Wii: after the holidays, when console sales inevitably fall off, the Wii will have that game's release (and our insatiable appetite for it) to keep its numbers relatively high when compared to its competitors.

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It'll be a fine game indeed, but it won't be nearly as significant or ground breaking as Mario 64 was. It's simply takin what Mario 64 started and building upon that.

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Agree with consensus;

Galaxy is going to light some fires. Hell, Sunshine sold quite a bit, and it was on an unpopular platform, and not much of a departure from 64

Galaxy has everything going for it that Sunshine didn't

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Ahem. Rock Band. That is all.

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First of all, this man is an idiot. Secondly, anyone notice the two megatons Super Mario Galaxy and Mario vs. Sonic at the Olympics? I'm actually starting to believe that Mario vs. Sonic will be the biggest game of the holidays. Think about it. Everyone and their grandmother has played Wii Sports now, and they are looking for a sequel with more sports to play with their wiimotes. Although it isn't Wii Sports 2, it's as close as one could possibly get. Throw in Mario and Sonic and you have a the biggest game of the holidays.

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I personally have sort of gotten past the dissapointment of ssbb delay, because I know I'll be playing galaxy for a long time, and plenty of other rental games. (I might even get gh3) but I've talked to various people who already told me they're buying mario vs sonic initially as a "collector's item" regardless of how good it actually is.

Based on Galaxy and Mario vs Sonic alone, I think the chance of nintendo selling a lot this season is not bad. Not to mention countless other releases and people who still don't have a wii getting stuff like zelda.

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I love my Wii and my 360 like my own unborn children, but NOTHING is getting in the way of me playing the hell out of Mario Galaxy when it releases. I'm talkin' prepackaged foods, time off work, no sleep, and a container for unloading fluids.
So yeah, while I do look forward to Smash Bros, Mario Galaxy will put everything else on my life on hold for a good while.

Fanboy +1

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There are SO many games coming out, brawl wont change any sales. Not enough Wii's to go around anyway! Its better for it to come out in February, it will keep the demand high.

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#6 hit it even. If there is a shortage most likely, it means they dont have to do as much to move systems, and save some big guns for afterwards.

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Nintendo will not need SSBB to rule this Holiday season. People are only going to spend so much money in three months on games and there is a ton of them between now and Christmas. Pushing back SSBB is a smart move if you ask me, now it can get the sales it deserves without all the competition of about 60 other games coming out for the Wii before X-Mas.

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Xbox 360 will barely be able to keep up with PS3 pretty soon, much less the Wii. Nothing is going to stop the Wii, and I doubt the holiday sales of Xbox 360 will be very impressive.

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