Here's a heads up for all you soon-to-be Mario Kart Wii owners out there. Remember the disc errors that many people were having with Super Smash Bros. Brawl? As it turns out, In any case, a handful of gamers in Japan are reporting problems, and there have been instances in which the software won't even start up. We wouldn't worry too much over the issue, though. Theoretically, if Brawl works with your Wii, Mario Kart should too (even though it's not the same dual-layered disc issue). If you haven't tested out Brawl on your Wii yet, though, you might want to cross your fingers come launch day.
Have any of you readers who've already purchased the game experienced any problems?
[Via GoNintendo]
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
4-13-2008 @ 2:23PM
AshStampede said...
over the weekend we had two people where i work wanted the disc swapped as it didnt work, dont know if it is related or not. this is the UK version.
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4-13-2008 @ 2:24PM
Roto13 said...
If Brawl's problem was the dual-layer DVD and Mario Kart is also a dual-layer DVD, it would be pretty obvious Mario Kart would have the same problem.
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4-14-2008 @ 4:25AM
Brian said...
Mario kart wii isn't dual layered
4-14-2008 @ 7:48AM
Roto13 said...
The article said it was when I posted. (Look at the strikeout.)
4-13-2008 @ 2:32PM
Mr. Scolex said...
So, basically, if you can't play brawl, you can't play MK, but if you had no problems with brawl, you'll be fine?
Guess that sucks for you guys who couldn't run Brawl, then.
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4-13-2008 @ 2:38PM
null said...
Mario Kart Wii is NOT Dual-Layer!!
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4-13-2008 @ 2:41PM
Sonic_13 said...
And your proof of that is?
4-13-2008 @ 3:09PM
MechaDEVO said...
Agreed. Not DVD9 (dual layer). It only has about 3GB of data on the disc. Brawl only needed the DVD9 for the in-game movies.
4-13-2008 @ 3:21PM
Mr Khan said...
I figured they needed DVD9 for the 300+ orchestrated songs, as there isn't enough FMV on there to merit more than a GC disc by itself
4-14-2008 @ 4:26AM
Brian said...
Sonic_13: Mario kart wii isn't dual layered because i have it and the bottom of it is silver
Silver = not dual layer
gold = dual layer.
4-13-2008 @ 2:41PM
Teddy said...
When I first inserted the Brawl disc, I got a disc error message. Now, I always keep my discs in their cases, clean off any dust on them and cover up my Wii console with a dust cover when I'm not using it so I thought damn even with all of these precautions, it still happens. I tried again a second time and this time it played. I took the disc out and reinserted it about three more times that evening just to be sure and the game played each time. Even with SSBB working now, I'm a little worried I might have a problem in the future. I never had a issue with my Sony PS2 (7 years), Sony DVD player (6 years) or my Oppo HDMI DVD player (15 months) with dual-layered discs. I plan to buy the gunmetal PS3 in June and so far I didn't hear/read about any disc reading problems with it, so I wonder why the Wii has issues.
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4-13-2008 @ 3:11PM
Unbreakable_idea said...
Always keep your reciepts. All three systems this generation have known failures. My friend's week old ps3 just died on him. My Wii lens needed to be cleaned. A friend of mine had his 360 give him the RRoD. It happens. Welcome to the golden age of shit poor manufacturing. My Dreamcast is still my daily cd player at almost ten years old (it'll play anything).
4-14-2008 @ 1:28AM
Mrblonde said...
I find the PS3 dying most ironic
4-13-2008 @ 3:04PM
Tim said...
Not a problem for me. I love the game. It's the most in-depth online multiplayer experience on wii.
You can join friends mid game, it gives you an extra channel so you can get ghost data ect without the game even being in the wii. It's darn right amazing.
Europe hasn't always got problems hey?
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4-13-2008 @ 3:13PM
hvnlysoldr said...
I haven't had a problem with Brawl. Sometimes the fan doesn't work.
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4-13-2008 @ 3:29PM
Mr Khan said...
I should be fine, then
Sorry for others, though
And y'all who claim to know how big the game is, is this data coming from .iso sizes, or what? Although i would estimate that the game is less than 4.7 GB
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4-13-2008 @ 3:49PM
TheWarlock said...
God damn you pigpen and your notorious talent for [almost] ruining MK. Question: If brawl gamers had to send in their Wii to nintendo to get it "cleaned", will they be able to play MK without having problems because of such cleaning?
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4-13-2008 @ 3:53PM
Perverted said...
Apparently technical people used some scrubber thing and removed the dead data from MKW and it has about 3Gig of data. Also it works fine for me :D
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4-13-2008 @ 4:15PM
TheOverlord#2(Toon Link FTW)(1461-5875-9923) said...
I was so happy when I loaded Brawl for the first time and it worked like any other Wii disc I own.
I keep my discs in my Wii though(One im playing the most). Maybe that is keeping dirt off my DD since the game is spinning the dust away...
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4-13-2008 @ 4:32PM
JohnnyW said...
Just by looking at the disc you can tell its not dual layer, its looks exactly the same as ever other disc bar Smsah Bros, in its normal silver reflectiveness, and a clear top layer.
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4-13-2008 @ 4:39PM
Billston said...
I was worried that when I eventually got Brawl, I'd have the same problem. I didn't actually know Mario Kart was on a dual layered disc, so when it worked fine, I thought nothing of it. But now I know! My Wii is fine! Wooo...
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4-13-2008 @ 5:14PM
Nik said...
I believe this article is incorrect. I have not had any problems with the disc and furthermore, MarioKart is on a DVD-5 single layer.
If you look for any downloads of the game the total under five gigs, and it works on a DVD-5 disc.
I think this article should be taken down.
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4-13-2008 @ 6:57PM
SoshiKitai said...
Whether or not your's worked doesn't matter. Just because your's worked, doesn't mean everyone else's did.
"Gamers in Japan have already been reporting problems, and there have been instances in which the software won't even start up."
...now, what might be incorrect is that the MKWii isn't a dual-layer somethin-somethin...
Putting down the topic is the last thing that should be done, what can be done is to UPDATE/EDIT it.
If you have counter evidence that proves that Japanese players didn't have problems with the game, then we can easily support that this article be brought down.
4-14-2008 @ 5:25AM
Nik said...
The nature of the disc read errors that we a speaking of is the difference between DVD5 and DVD9
I am sure the many Japanese and European player who scratched their discs are having trouble.
However I suppose their could be a problem with some discs, the disc that I burned is working dandy.
4-13-2008 @ 6:43PM
lee said...
i just looked on a torrent site and the average size of the game is 4.38gb, so that will fit on a single layered disc no need for dual-layer.
and before anyone starts im not a pirate, my wii isnt even modded, and i brought mario kart wii for full price with my hard earned cash on launch day.
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4-14-2008 @ 5:47AM
Nik said...
I modded my Wii with my hard earned electrical engineering knowledge.(although it is not hard to do)
4-14-2008 @ 11:44AM
FantomRedux said...
woop de doo. and I suppose not paying for games makes you absolutely fecking awesome huh?
asshat (=|3
4-14-2008 @ 11:53AM
ChaOS said...
No, but playing them weeks before they launch does :D
4-13-2008 @ 8:40PM
Alex said...
I wish Nintendo would drop this "Dirty" BS the fact is a bunch of Wiis especially the ones early ones have under powered/cheap lasers that blow at handling dual layer media, so when they say dirty they mean your Wii suffered through a year of getting 2 specks of dust on it since we cheaped out on the laser send it to us so we can replace the laser itself not clean it. They actually fixed this problem for the most part with the Wiis manufactured after April or May or so of last year but it is still a problem just no where near as much if you have one of the non launch window Wiis.
Now I know some Wiis problems are from genuinely being dirty but for the most part it's a substandard laser. But in there defense it wasn't the worst decision since it works well with single layer games and to this day there's only one dual layer game.
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4-13-2008 @ 11:01PM
Razor said...
I believe this to be the case because if it were a dirty lens problem Nintendo would surely have had a cleaning product on the market by now. I think they just fixed the units that had problems and figured this issue would eventually soon be remembered by none. Move along, there's nothing to see here.
4-13-2008 @ 11:32PM
Frozen2kX said...
I bet the problem with the Mario Kart game is the new anti-modchip codes that are added to the game.
I think that the recent repair incentive they had for the supposed dirty disc on Brawl is so they can secure those console so the owners wouldnt be able to put a chip in it.
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4-14-2008 @ 12:46AM
Alex said...
There is nothing they have done yet to prevent the Wii from being able to be modded (atleast in the last 5 or 6 months) The thing they are supposedly doing as far as Mario Kart has failed to materialize at least from what people who are actually playing a burned copy have said on sites gbatemp and wiinewz .So it's BS ATM and no one has been banned yet... But just a banning wouldn't stop people from being able to play the pirated games and if they don't do some sort of sophisticated technique on banning people from WFC it'll be useless (like on the DS). This stems from Nintendo cheaping out on the logic in between the components within the Wii. If they had a smart logical connection between the motherboard and the disc drive like the 360 and PS3, the Wii would of probably never been hacked to the extent it has been by now. Don't get me wrong though the Wii is a fine piece of hardware I just wish they would of invested the 5-10 dollars more per machine to improved the security of it.
4-14-2008 @ 11:49AM
FantomRedux said...
You honestly think the Wii has been hacked more than any toher console on the market? PSPusually has its firware cracked 2 weeks after its released, the DS has had custom firmware since forever, the 360/PS3 both have modchips on the market, so does the Wii. The entire idea of having a modchip isnt to disable the logical connection between the MB/Dic drive, they just usually disable the process of checking if the software being run on the console has been digitally signed. Thats all its ever been since the PS1, and I can't see the Wii doing it any differently.
4-14-2008 @ 11:50AM
FantomRedux said...
>< stupid spelling errors
4-14-2008 @ 1:35AM
Joe H said...
As far as I'm concerned, as long as it doesn't let them cheat, the more people who play the game online the better, no matter how they get the game.
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4-14-2008 @ 4:27AM
Brian said...
The game isn't dual layered
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4-14-2008 @ 8:10AM
Xiru said...
PS3 has the least of the failure rates. I hear of a PS3 having disc read errors every so often on the official boards, so it does happen. But not nearly as much as the Wii. In fact, the new Falcon 360's are out and I have one. Even they might be less of a bother than the Wii is currently, but only time will tell. Nintendo needs to release an official lens cleaner, instead of making us send it in for repair.
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4-14-2008 @ 9:44AM
mini keg said...
you're kidding right? I think just about everyone I know who's had a PS3 has had to return it for some reason.... Just last week my friend's 25 day old PS3 stopped working..... Also... Devil May Cry is a prime example of PS3 disk retardedness....
Every system has issues.... I've had the RRoD on my 360 and my brothers each did too.... No problems with either of our Wii's yet though.... Not to say anything won't come up... but to sit here and claim the PS3 is perfect is just stupid.
4-14-2008 @ 10:19AM
Britboyj27 said...
I'm surprised no one's mentioned this but my friend's Wii refused to play her copy of Brawl because it had a mod chip in it. We cracked it open, removed the mod chip and it's played without a hiccup ever since.
Could that be Nintendo's ploy here?
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4-14-2008 @ 11:49AM
omghaha said...
because your friend is to retarded to update his modchip.
4-14-2008 @ 11:50AM
FantomRedux said...
indeed
4-14-2008 @ 7:37PM
Alex said...
@FantomRedux
I know the psp and DS are very well hacked atm hell even I have a CFW on my psp for the NES emulator. But when it comes to the home current consoles the Wii is still slightly ahead hacked wise than the 360 though that only came about recently and the PS3s modchip is still useless atm as far as running homebrew or burned/downloaded games goes. And yes I know the purpose of a modchip but what I was stating was that the Wii is more like a PS1 in the sense that it really can't know that its been chipped where as on the 360 they need to go to greater lengths via updating the drives firmware and patching the games to ensure they don't get banned form live, and the only reason thats happens is because the 360 has a more intelligent connection to its dvd drive that the Wii does. So all in all I agree with you but as far as home consoles are concerned I stand by what I said.
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4-19-2008 @ 3:10PM
IUG said...
I bought the UK version of Mario Kart, and it doesn't load up on our wii. I thought it might be the disk, so I took it back to the shop. It worked on their in-store console. They swapped my disk with their copy, but it still doesn't work on my machine. It's my son's birthday today. He's very dissappointed. All of our other games work fine in the wii so I can't understand what the proiblem is. Any ideas?
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4-20-2008 @ 12:22PM
Swensken said...
Woudn´t realy mathers since this is a wii game and if the wii brawl or MK game dosen´t work it is a serious issue.... since wiigames should work at a wii without any problems.... btw the europe realese of brawl haven´t even been set so......
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4-21-2008 @ 6:35AM
STEVE said...
I got mario Kart - System updated, as instructed.
Since NO disc will read . just get unable to read disc, message.
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4-22-2008 @ 7:03PM
STANMAN said...
I got the game about a week ago, and it worked fine until recently....
It just stopped working. And i dont think its scratches...
But what else can it be...?
It starts up in the wii fw just fine, it comes to that "wiimote warning" thing and after that the disc just stoppes spinning and "disc cant be read" comes up along with "check your wii operations manual for more information"
Any1 know whats up with it??
Stan
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4-27-2008 @ 6:08PM
Kevin said...
I just bought Mario Kart Wii today and my Wii wouldn't read it. No message about disc error. It just won't read it. I exchanged it for another and the same thing happened. Now I am waiting on a response from Nintendo. All my other games work fine. If it isn't a multi-layer like everyone is saying, then I don't know what the heck the problem is. I just hope I can get it to work without having to send my Wii into the factory.
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5-02-2008 @ 9:47PM
Kathleen said...
I also just ordered the Mario Kart Wii from Amazon. The Wii would not read it, though I have no problem with other discs. I returned it to Amazon, just opened the replacement, and it's the same thing! The Wii I have is not brand new, but works fine on all other new discs I have purchased. How disappointing!
4-27-2008 @ 6:12PM
kevin said...
Hey, I'm just following up on my last post. I found a fix that got my Mario Kart Wii to work.
First I did a total sytem update.
Then I loaded the disc again and on the game channel it showed a system update icon instead of the Mario Kart Game icon. So I clicked on that and it did a much smaller, faster update which I assume is a hotfix for that game only. Once that was complete the Wii Menu refreshed and the game was avaiable for play.
I hope this helps anyone that had the same problem I did.
I'm just glad it wasn't the "dirty lens" issue...LOL
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5-02-2008 @ 9:46PM
Kathleen said...
Kevin - just read this post, as I had 2 discs which did not read. I took out the disc and unplugged the Wii. Plugged it back in and put the disc in. This time I chose the disc play from the menu and got the Wii upgrade message. I agreed to the terms, it upgraded, said it was complete, and then the Mario Kart appeared. Thanks so much. Thank goodness for internet searches so someone else can help you with a similar problem!